We got together for a recording session in the midst of the conversation around gun laws, toxic masculinity, and school shootings in the aftermath of the Parkland shooting this February, and we asked ourselves: how would history be different if society didn't perpetuate these harmful ideas about masculinity and what it means to be male? Also, we stop to tell everyone multiple times to watch The Crown, so you know, hop to, in the name of the Queen. (PS: Sorry this episode upload is a few days late. We'll do better next time! We love you!)

Ian joins us to talk about the Trưng sisters, and we derail the conversation completely to imagine what it would be like if Mike Pence was an elephant.